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  3. https://globalnews.ca/news/4283470/donald-trump-canadians-smuggling-shoes-tariffs/ “People living in Canada are coming to the United States and smuggling things back into Canada because the tariffs are so massive,” Trump said Tuesday. “The tariffs to get common items back into Canada are so high, that they have to smuggle them in. “They buy shoes and then they wear them. They scuff them up. They make them sound old or look old,” the president said. 😂😂😂 I'm sorry folks, but this is getting more ridiculous every week.
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    Yeah, sad to say, you aren't missing much.
  5. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/18/us/politics/dhs-kirstjen-nielsen-families-separated-border-transcript.html
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    Is this everyone that is left? lol this place is pretty slow! Only thread getting attention is politics and YIKES on that one.
  7. Up 320% from 2017 which was an anomaly as far as recent years go. In 2017 that number was down over 320% from 2016. The numbers this year are returning to the median, rather than being extraordinary. I can't find corroboration of that 80% figure anywhere. Not to say it's wrong, but I haven't found that in my digging. Where did it come from?
  8. Look at the age breakdown of "the children" too. Completely different issue though, but if you're 17 and left your parents 3 countries ago, are you a "child" or are you effectively emancipated and an adult? I think you are the only one that figured out that if the people with the child aren't his parents or guardian, they a basically taking a minor out of their home country to another country. Human trafficking...probably. Kidnapping...maybe. In the best interest of the child...probably not. I don't get why that's so hard to understand. You can't even do that within the US if you're the parent. Try taking your kid and moving to another state without the other parents permission. Now try that with someone else's kid and see if they don't spit you up. There are a TON of issues that need to be addressed here. I think the Congress is gonna do the same thing they do with gun-control...talk a bunch of crap, then do absolutely nothing.
  9. so children coming with out parents is up `320%, roughly 80% of those children that are being "seperated" are not coming with parents. you know what that is? its not separating children from families - its child trafficking. and is illegal.
  10. Have you looked at Section 235? It defines what "present" in the United States means. It also has a ton of law for requirements for entry. It's long and interesting and worth understanding how to legally enter the US. Context is important. https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=1ae730aedd8b66bded3f61754eabbd5a&mc=true&node=pt8.1.235&rgn=div5#se8.1.235_13
  11. (1) In general. - Any alien who is physically present in the United States or who arrives in the United States (whether or not at a designated port of arrival and including an alien who is brought to the United States after having been interdicted in international or United States waters), irrespective of such alien's status, may apply for asylum in accordance with this section or, where applicable, section 235(b). https://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/SLB/HTML/SLB/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-29/0-0-0-1687.html May not be correct but it's written in our laws.
  12. So we're clear...entering the US illegally and then asking for asylum is NOT the correct way to do it?
  13. Can I Apply for Asylum Even if I Was Convicted of a Crime? Yes, but you may be barred from being granted asylum depending on the crime. You must disclose any criminal history on your Form I-589, Application for Asylum and for Withholding of Removal, and at your asylum interview. If you do not disclose such information, your asylum claim will be referred to the immigration court and may result in fines or imprisonment for committing perjury. For more information on bars to receiving asylum, see the “Asylum Bars” link to the right.
  14. Isn't that if you are here legally, e.g., "Not currently in removal proceedings." Like if you traveled here on a visa and then asked for asylum BEFORE the courts were going to throw you out?
  15. Did I ever travel to another country illegally? Other than not being a criminal I was good. Oh, so you acknowledged the rest was all true and that you are being totally irrational and have no idea what's going on other than what Bloomberg News told you to think.
  16. Can I Still Apply for Asylum Even if I Am in the United States Illegally? Yes. You may apply for asylum with USCIS regardless of your immigration status if: You are not currently in removal proceedings You file an asylum application within one year of arriving to the United States or demonstrate that you are within an exception to that rule. https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/refugees-asylum/asylum/questions-and-answers-asylum-eligibility-and-applications They are choosing to treat them differently. And putting them in jail teaches them what exactly? Even if it's just for a couple days.
  17. Great. Good for you. Aside from the uppityness of this, were you ever stripped from your parents and involuntarily put in a cage in some random warehouse? You're right, perspective is an issue.
  18. If it was important enough, Congress could get 2/3s vote and override the veto. But...I guess it's not that important to Congress to do anything other than talk.
  19. Again, if they are all committing a crime. If they go to a port of entry and ASK for asylum, they are allowed in and put in a decent place provided there is room, while their request is reviewed. If they jump the boarder and run in they are breaking the law. If I come to your house and ring the doorbell and you tell me "hold on a sec, then let me in." That's way different than me climbing in a window and then, when caught in your fridge getting a beer, asking if it's OK to come in. I really feel like there is some serious lack looking at the depth of the problem or just plain willful misrepresentation of the situation.
  20. I agree, but you notice it's Republicans writing the legislation and democrats complainig. Read why this is happening and address the cause.
  21. Not to mention the US is deciding to charge all crossers with a crime, which is a distinct change, before Trump a lot were evaluated for asylum. Under international law it is illegal to criminalize seeking asylum, so the Trump admin is treating everyone as a criminal without due course and using that as a means to separate families to deter others.
  22. The Secretary of Homeland Defense gave a press conference yesterday. To be brief she said: 1) Of the 12,000 children that 10,000 of them CAME to the boarder by themselves or with someone that wasn't their parents, guardian, or family member...aka a coyote. 2) Of the remaining 2,000 they are only seperated when their is no PROOF that the people with the child is in fact their parent or guardian. They want to make sure someone isn't human trafficking the child. 3) All children are turned over to Health and Human Services (HHS) with 72 hours. That's the same HHS that takes care of American children when there are issues. The kids aren't "missing" it's that HHS is in charge of them not Homeland...idiot reporters are asking the WRONG agency where the kids are. 4) If those kids have family or HHS can find a sponsor for them, they go to those people 5) The people that go to a port of entry and ask for asylum are housed in regular spots. If these people had went to a port of entry they would be in beds and rooms instead they chose to break the law. The Secretary said that people "...are not turned away at ports of entry. Some are asked to come back later because there isn't enough room in the facilities for them at the moment. They have to wait for people to be processed through to free up spots." Now, if they choose to jump the fence, that doesn't mean those spots are now mysteriously open...they don't have anywhere else to put them. 6) Congress could fix this with the simple passage of law that they could do ANY GD TIME they want...but here we are again with congress complaining about stuff that it is literally THEIR JOB to fix. Add boarder security. Add money for more facilities. Add money for more officers. Streamline the legal process. Instantly deport anyone not coming through a legal port of entry. Problem solved. Me: 7) The mean stuff..That place is probably 10x better than the tarp they were sleeping under in the desert or a street in Mexico the night before. 8) That's what most military bases look like for warehousing and work spaces...I've slept in way worse and been happy. Perspective is an issue. When your used to a perfect house in a great suburb in the best country on earth, you forget that some people are traveling hundreds of miles by foot just to have a decent place to sleep with a roof and nobody trying to kill them or take their stuff. Also remember it's for 72 hours until HHS takes them somewhere else, but HHS is over-burdened too. I can tell you that the building they are staying in would be the BEST building in Somalia and there is a whole country that would happily swap them one for one for the opportunity to live in that building forever. Again, Democrats and Republicans COULD fix it today if they wanted to, but one party is too busy trying to make Trump look bad to actually sit down and do some work. Thy want the same crap that never actually FIXES the problems so they can complain about it for another 3 decades. Civics...The Executive Branch ENFORCES the law as written...the Legislative Branch MAKES the laws. Don't like it, tell your congressman to quit running his mouth and pass a better law. I wish the Democrats would quit using kids as pawns in their "I hate Trump" war and fix the problem. This crap has been going on for decades. I hate how people pretend it's important now but where uninterested 2 weeks ago, a year ago, when Clinton was President, when Reagan gave amnesty...
  23. Because the 8th Amendment, along with all other Amendments, only applies to US citizens. I'm not saying that's right, just that's the way it is. That's also how we were able to used "enhanced interrogation" on so many "terrorist suspects" without ever charging them with a crime. Until public opinion turns, there's nothing stopping the government from doing these things.
  24. Again, just because there's a law enabling ICE from doing what they're doing, doesn't make it any less inhumane. And that's why many Senators, even Senator Cruz, are trying to write up a new law stopping this barbaric act. http://time.com/5315604/ted-cruz-family-separation-border-crisis/ And come on, the "crime" you speak of is a misdemeanor, not a felony. Tell me ANY other case where children are separated from their families for a misdemeanor. How does this not break the 8th amendment?
  25. Okay, and just like that SJ freed up plenty of cap space to make a serious Tavares push. I spoke too soon. I really think of all the teams, he would be the best fit there. Thornton leaving opens up that #1 center position for him, and they don't rely so much on speed that Tavares would slow them down. But with Trotz leaving DC, I wouldn't be at all surprised if NYI signed him in order to convince Tavares they are serious about winning. July 1 is going to be very interesting.
  26. ...and Hoffman is then flipped to Florida for picks (2nd, 4th, 5th).
  27. So we should put children in adult correction facilities? again be mad at the "parents" who put their families in these spots - not the people enforcing the laws. Is it sad? yes, but guess what. it could be all solved in the "parents" followed the law. And actually your Vox article shows how the parents who broke federal law, and go to federal prison. don't get to keep their kids with them. Just like any other criminal how do you figure?
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