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  1. Because why should you be punished if your innocent? why should someone else have that effect? Whats stopping someone who maybe wants the other person your up against to get the job for their own reasons from making that accusation then? In the case of Roy Moore i 100% think these accusations are political motivated based on when they were made and on this guys past and everything i've read about him. But based on what you said he should be barred from Running because someone makes an accusation. If thats the case we could make it so no Democrat ever runs for office again just by making baseless accusations. And for the first part - you'd expect to be put on leave then - is this a paid leave or unpaid? If its paid could one then force a company or school to go out of business by making enough accusations that they are paying employees enough to stay home? If I make an accusation about you and 2 others in your department, could your department function properly? Now we're punishing students of your department by shorthanding them because of an accusation. Or we could assume your innocent until someone can prove your guilty.
  2. my bad I thought you were talking about Roy Moore. But IMO many people see not being a career politican as a good thing - someone not looking to get rich off the tax payers. someone like Trump has very little to gain by being president - surely the risk far out weighs the potential gain. But when you look at congress where you have people who have been there for decades and are millionairs - and never worked a real job in their life, there is an issue. IMO being a great business leader(note leader not owner/boss ect) is far harder then being a politican where you just do whats best for yourself. And for Billy Bush- thats fine he lost his job, his employers didn't want to associate with him. Trump was at the time interviewing for a job - and those responsible for the decision decided they were just words and hopefully his good would out weight those. Now if there was proof he did something illegal or wrong I have faith in the american people he'd be held accountable. But just like Roy Moore, Matt Lauer and the rest, I personally would want hard evidence , not locker room talk or accusations. If we had photos(franken) or texts(weiner) then it'd be much different. but you did avoid the question - should you be forced to resign or kept from applying for a job based on the accusation of a student?(note they don't even have to have taken your class) with out any evidence?
  3. https://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/Archives/JFKWHA-148.aspx Just listened to this JFK speech. I think pretty safe to say JFK would not be welcome in todays Democrat party. talking about how tax cuts are a good thing, and how we need to support our industry. and the big one how higher tax are toxic for a country
  4. why shouldn't be be allowed to run? Can we keep you from applying for a job because an accusation? Have you ever had a student accuse you of doing something? maybe grading to hard because their race/religion/sex ect? should an accusation like that keep you from applying or getting a job if its not proven you did wrong?
  5. oh and we have this getting swiped under the rug this weekend as well: https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/12/11/russia-collusion-investigation-suspend-robert-muellers-bias-democratic-investigation-robbins-column/938619001/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2017/12/08/robert-mueller-has-got-some-explaining-to-do/?utm_term=.0307f45efa69 WE have 3(4?) of Robert Muellers top investigators showing to be extremely anti trump and both going after Trump and being pro Clinton(giving large donations and actually defending them and their charity in court) Its become pretty clear its a political witch hunt.
  6. Well on why? because there is an election this week - just like the question has to come out - why not say a word until 30 days before an election when he's a for sure winner(at the time)? And while I agree with you those who are guilty need to be held accountable and its a very powerful movement, that is 100% why i think we need to allow this "movement" to happen with caution. Because right now all it takes is an accusation to ruin a life - and that accusation can be 100% false. If anything else this is why we need to have the "trust but varify" attitude towards accsuations and ensure both sides have their day in court before "tar and feathering" anyone. Because after all its real easy for someone to make an accusation to "get someone" but almost impossible now to clear your name after - and say you piss off a coworker or an ex or anyone - how would you feel being on the other end of a false accusation?
  7. I guess It would be because you think you know them and know they would be good for their constituents and the country as a whole? Same reason Nancy Polosi was defending Franken. and countless others have come to his Defense. Also if you truly think he is innocent. after all if he does get his day is court and it comes out the accusations are 100% false is it suicide?
  8. Weird, because noone said she admitted to forging the whole thing - but rather she admitted to forging part of it and that puts the whole thing in question since she wont allow an expert to look at it, and Roy Moores been able to prove he wasn't around that diner on the date she forged into the note. What Roy Moore did..... Do you have evidence of anything he did? Noone is saying if he's guilty he shouldn't face consequences that I've seen. But rather everyone "defending him" wants to see evidence and doesn't want to see someone convinced based on an accusation. Hell i don't even need to see the evidence - give him and the accuseers a day in court and make them testify under oath where there is a penalty for lying. Weird, because I see Polosi that was coming out defending Franken, same with a whole bunch of hollywood elites who were defending his behavior and pictures of him sexually abusing women. Where with Roy Moore people have been defending the character they believe him to be and wanting hard evidence. But its okay, hes A Republican so he must be bad right? After all having photos of you sexually abusing a woman is nothing right? **and Al Franken still hasn't stepped down - or apologized but rather played the "hes a crusader for women" card after abusing at least one.
  9. https://beta.thescore.com/nhl/news/1441131-blues-season-ticket-holder-dresses-as-emergency-goalie Cool Story. The Avs EBUG this year is Justin Goldman of the Goalie guild.
  10. https://sports.yahoo.com/meet-amazing-incredible-nigerian-womens-bobsled-team-215859980.html Cool story for the olympics coming up.
  11. https://www.yahoo.com/news/roy-moore-accuser-beverly-nelson-181550285.html uh oh.... and yet she still wont release her year book to an expert to examine.... But we need to not scrutinize someone who committed perjury in knowingly claiming false evidence in court right?
  12. well with criminal cases, just like with Roy Moore(interesting he hasn't even been charged yet) shes innocent until proven guilty, and the cop will need to provide evidence that she wasn't. Burden of proof is on him. But if we want to take the approach that someone like A03 does- since she was accused she must be guilty.
  13. ask Crystal Gail Mangum, https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/duke-lacrosse-rape-espn-30-for-30_us_56e07e33e4b065e2e3d486f7 And for the record as well, did i ever say not to take an accusation seriously? or did I say people are innocent until proven guilty? - something that this country is founded on? Or are you saying your willing to throw that away? If thats the case clearly your good with us calling every muslim a terrorist right?
  14. Just saw this. And not even close to true. Thats why I won't say Lauer, Whinstein, ect are guilty. Franken I'm willing to waiver on a bit since we've seen evidence. Wiener- was proven guilty in a court of law. Clinton - is still innocent of that(guilty of purgary) And for the record. Moore was a registered Democrate when he is being accused of these crimes.
  15. 1. I'm sorry for what you went through - and that does seem weird. 2. I'm not saying to not take accusations seriously. but rather your innocent until proven guilty. and the timing of the Roy Moore accusations is fishy. especially given the first ones were proven false as the time the accusers said they happened Roy Moore was not with in 200 miles of them with hard evidence of that. - just like how the year book signing was proven again with hard evidence to be fake. And for how do you prove rape? well there are ways I would think given rape convictions that have happened. is it a gray area? I'm sure as its used as a weapon now as well - you hear of storys of women (and men) who consent, then are caught by parents(happens alot on college campuses) and then claim rape after the fact. it is a gray area indeed, but doesn't mean you convict someone based on an accusation. ***and none of this changes that Roy Moore is a bit of a creep - just like Franken, Lauer, and 90% of hollywood - but doesn't mean their rapists either.